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A few positive things to point out on reporting elsewhere:

1)The NY Times has just gotten out some sharp reporting with very helpful graphics on the effect of the failure to extend the subsidy expansions, which points out exactly the hard-hit cases (like older people over the subsidy cliff) that I've been trying to point out, with a comment here and a few in the NYT comments section.

a) https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/10/02/upshot/shutdown-obamacare-subsidies.html

Look at those wonderful map-based plots, where you can pretty much read off things like those humongo increases in Wyoming for older people just under the subsidy cliff, and otherwise see the effects in other states! And, at other ages.

b)Also very sharp, due to smart graphics, is the Steve Rattner column, which has broader scope than just the expanded subsidies

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/30/opinion/government-shutdown-republican-obamacare.html

2)On the issue of those really big premium increases, something came up around where I live, in Western Massachusetts, where the local towns and cities, which pool together for health coverage for their employees, all had sudden 20% increases in cost to the towns. The reporting of it here indicated these sudden increases were due to the new expensive weight-loss drugs. (I wonder if this is a big factor, or the main factor, on the increases you talk about.)

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Thanks, Andrew, for getting into the weeds, and explaining some important details here.

On your "Insurers’ rate requests for base premiums for this year are up an average of 18% by KFF’s calculations, which was obviously not known in July 2024", which is, unfortunately, alarming if the trend continues: I had an inkling of that, when motivated by your last post, pointing out the handy KFF no-extension premium-increase calculator:

https://www.kff.org/interactive/how-much-more-would-people-pay-in-premiums-if-the-acas-enhanced-subsidies-expired/ .

I went poking around for information about people in the hard-hit over-the-subsidy-cliff over-60 pre-Medicare group.

And found:

"On average, a 60-year-old couple making $85,000 (or 402% FPL) would see yearly premium payments rise by over $22,600 in 2026, after accounting for an annual premium increase of 18%. This would bring the cost of a benchmark plan to about a quarter of this couple’s annual income, up from 8.5%."

which includes your 18% raw average premium increase.

(Quote from here: https://www.kff.org/affordable-care-act/aca-marketplace-premium-payments-would-more-than-double-on-average-next-year-if-enhanced-premium-tax-credits-expire/ )

Of course, the average premium at about a quarter of the couple's income for people around 60 is worse or better depending on the state. The Wyoming example I posted in my comment on your last post has premiums at about 40% of income for just the higher-copay bronze plans.

And, of course, since states have different rate-bands, often lower than the ACA max of 3:1, you can find places like Vermont (I did zip 05302; rate band is 1:1 I think) where for a couple of ANY ADULT AGE (excepting any special young-adult rates) even a bronze plan at 405% of FPL yields: $19,391 per year in premiums (which equals 22.64% of your household income).

And, of course, the incomes are in terms of basically gross income (MAGI). After taxes and income and payroll taxes, the gross roughly $85k is maybe $55k-$60k. And the ACA premiums are not deductible. They come from after-taxes income.

We can't forget copays. If you look at healthcare.gov , you can see that in many or most places, the bronze and silver plans are fully catastrophic, with, for a couple, deductibles as high as 8k/ person, and out-of-pocket losses like $9k/person. ($16k / $18k per couple.)

(I feel like Chicken Little.)

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